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Category 9, Topic 74 Message 48 Tue Dec 22, 1987 TOMAS [Simutronics] at 19:58 EST OK, here's one for you... I'm stuck at the gate with the sword behind it. I haven't solved the glimmering gate with the treasure chest but have completely explored the entire area. I used the copper coin to open the other gate (to give you an idea of where I am). Can someone tell me how to get through the gate? Both sides are flanked with water fountains but otherwise there isn't anything special -- no buttons, keys, etc, to open the gate. I assume it has to do with the treasure chest behind the blue glimmering wall but I'll be damned if I can get through. ANY help will be GREATLY appreciated -- even a straight-out answer will suffice. If you care not to give it away here in open forum, please send any replies to TOMAS in GEnie mail. In advance, thanks VERY much! And hurry! This is by far the best RPG computer game ever made! -- Tom ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 49 Tue Dec 22, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 21:31 EST I was able to kill the purple worms easily (relatively, with patience) and effecitively. I was very proud when I killed 4, which took time and patience, but then I realized that my happiness was VERY premature . The third level seems to have an absolute ENDLESS supply of baddies. Would the person who left the note about how to circle around the purple worms please leave me EMAIL about how to finish this level? I've given it about 7 hours of frustration. SOrry I don't remember your name. TOMAS - Email coming. EVERYONE! I talked to FTL today and tried to get them up here. They said some interesting thigns. Most of their income comes from spelling checker dictionaries, which they've been doing for years under the name OASIS (I believe - they answer the phone as FTL/OASIS). This is where they get their data compression from - 63,000 words in 100K. The fellow there called ARC child's play and after seeing this I believe him. He also said that in one version there were 50 bytes free on the disk, and they were wondering what to do with all that available space - and they enhanced the game some more. There are currently 6 bytes free on this disk. This disk is formated in an extended format AS extended as possible without running into problem on some machines (like those that cannnot handle 83 tracks.) The AMiga version will be out in 1-2 months and is a bit faster and smoother (because of their nice blitter) but otherwise very similar. The 2 years of effort into this game went more into the SYSTEM than into this game. The guy said that this game uses only PARTS of the possibilities of the system they developed - there are lots of thins they can do that weren't done with DungeonMaster. Expect the second game in this series in 6-8 months, with mmore than 1 disk. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 50 Tue Dec 22, 1987 B.MORAVEK [Brad] at 19:54 MST I am on level three, what worms? I have seen things under rocks, but I have yet to find a easy way to kill (at a long distance). My disk shows that there is zero K free. Love the game, found one very small nit, if you can call it that. One of my players just won't die as quickly as she should, I guess it must deal with all the sleeping she did, with no movement (beyond casting spells). A new version, yea! Where is my check book, if it is built as sound as this one, it will be a big hit. .......Brad ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 51 Tue Dec 22, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 22:00 EST Brad and others - "levels" has 2 different definitions, depending on whether you count the hall of champions or not. I don't count it, since there's no puzzles or conflicts really. Level 1 starts the next level after the hall of champions, with me at least. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 52 Wed Dec 23, 1987 TOMAS [Simutronics] at 01:46 EST OK, in that sense it would be Level 2 -- with the complex of doors and battles. You're right, Henry, this place crawls with nasties. Which one are you having the worst problem with? Got into the Gem Room/Trapdoor? Is there ANYTHING required in Level 1 to get the job done in #2? I'm really thinking I'm missing something along the way. By the way, can we upgrade to the more-byte version that FTL improved upon? Even 58 bytes is worth the effort... Can you believe that we accept such an upgrade with so "little" done to it??? Sheesh! It shows us and FTL what they've come up with. For everyone else, without any doubt whatsoever in my mind, go and buy this game. For the casual pirate, if you guys have any common sense and want to see 1st grade, quality products for the ST, support FTL and this product! It would be the best entertainment software investment you ever made. Do everyone a favor and pay the $39.95 for an original copy with documentation, you won't go wrong... -- Tom ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 53 Tue Dec 22, 1987 J.CURTICE at 22:47 PST HT, I'll try to go back and see how I made it through level three. I csometimes go back there for food. Those worms aren't very filling, but they do the job. Basically, as far as I remember, you have to fight your way through. Be careful to watch for secret passages and hidden buttons. I find that dead ends aren't always dead ends.....I've gotten to the very bottom but I lack a certain key. I think I know what level it is on, but I had to skip a lot of rooms because I didn't have keys to open the doors. I found a puzzle that I THINK I didn't solve but I can't get by it. Oh well.. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 54 Wed Dec 23, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 02:19 EST SOrry for the confusion, but the version with 50 bytes left was a beta - we all have the newest version (6 bytes left). J.CURTICE - there seems to be a trick. I go around in circles, and OBVIOUSLY the monsters regenerate - especially if you keep going back to that level for food. I remember a room with a mummy that said "he is my prisoner" but I can't get back there. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 55 Wed Dec 23, 1987 K.BISHOP at 00:21 PST Like a few other people I haven't gotten on to how to use the scrolls. I'm catching on to the magic spells but I've gotten no where on the scrolls. Since there are a few of us in the same boat could somebody give us a hint or two? Any clues would be appreciated. Rick Bishop ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 56 Wed Dec 23, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 09:42 EST You don't use the scrolls - the writing on them tells you what you need. then you can discard the scrolls. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 57 Wed Dec 23, 1987 CAPT.COOK at 20:35 EST And you don't even need scrolls. With patience, you can figure out spells. Scrolls are just your 'recipe book' Hey, anyone got a clue on how to get past the NONE SHALL PASS door or get past the force field to the chest? I think I'll have to start over. I am using Gandu (?) who carries poison darts, and so killed off like every single critter on my way down to level 2 (or 3). Now, when I open a door and 8 things come flying at me, none of my characters has any combat experience! Thats what I get for taking the easy way out, eh? -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 58 Wed Dec 23, 1987 J.CURTICE at 19:14 PST Henry, if you can get back to that "prisoner" mummy, you will be just about near the staircase that goes down a level. I also suggest you do what the writing says. You will have to do a little more fig( 4ng if you don't ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 59 Wed Dec 23, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 22:41 EST I can't get back to the mummy. I've tried. I killed him (accidently - I was trying to free him) but now I just go around in circles. If you can remember, please EMAIL me how to get back to the mummy (or that location) from the shortcuts. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 60 Wed Dec 23, 1987 TOMAS [Simutronics] at 23:21 EST How about the room on Level 2/3 that's labeled "The Vault"? Something about "Show us your power and something-or-other." ANY help GREATLY appreciated there. Also the room that I think is called "The Lord of the Gem." -- the one with the multiple rooms/sparkling blue and the buttons. Those are the last two I have to take on on that level. Help! "The Vault" has a trap door that has to be closed in some way and for the life of me, I can't find it! -- Tom PS, this is NOT the "gem" door where you have to insert the gem to open the door, by the way. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 61 Thu Dec 24, 1987 C.MULLER at 02:00 EST This game is awesome! If you like fantasy games even a little, buy this one. You'll be glad you did. Its state of the art from it crisp clean graphics to it's synthesized sounds to monster that actually react appropriately in combat (i.e. Run away when losing, chase you when wining, or hide behind corners so you can't hit them with a fireball) it just gets better and better. I'm on level 5 and loving every minute of this game so far! By the way, has anyone solved the wall tha appears and disappears as you step on different spots on the floor? If so please Email me, thanks. This is in the area to the right of the writing that says, "If you want to stay alive you better tur and run." Heading Down... Chris tur = turn ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 62 Wed Dec 23, 1987 M.DEVLIN [Bandit] at 23:36 PST This game sounds great! I have yet to see it though...ho hum... I had forgotten all about it, but I WANNA SEE IT!!! Hopefully it will reach THE GOOD STATE: WASHINGTON hahaha (I can say what I want, you can't hurt me, heh heh heh! ) ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 63 Thu Dec 24, 1987 CAPT.COOK at 16:48 EST TOMAS => It says. show us your INFLUENCE and your MIGHT. Think on that, its a two step puzzle, using two different aspects of your champions power. Also, it must be done in the correct order. Henry => Remember when you said food was too plentiful? Fairly nasty surprise a bit later, eh? I have dead characters that I am not bringing back to life because I cannot feed them! Also, we're getting pretty thirsty down here. I bet there is a spell to create food/drink. Just wish I knew it. Still looking for a way past NONE SHALL PASS and the force field/chest. If its a specific answer I need, feel free to EMAIL it. Thanks. Merry Christmas -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 64 Thu Dec 24, 1987 J.CURTICE at 17:05 PST Chris, I took me a long time to figure out how to keep that wall open, but I finally figured it out. Remember that you aren't the only "people" who can step on pressure plates.....It isn't nessecary to figure it out, but you still get a few prizes...... Captain, I skipped the NONE SHALL PASS my first time around, but when showing the game to a friend, I got back there, and it turns out to be a rather easy puzzle. As the writing says on a wall a level or two down, "Don't let a closed door stop you." If anyone can find an IR key, tell me. I'm stuck and I think that key may help me finish... ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 65 Thu Dec 24, 1987 J.M.MESA at 20:58 EST I am down on level 8 and if any of you were able to get past the corridor on level 5 that says TEST YOUR STRENGTH I would appreciate E-Mail on what is behind that corridor(I am not going to go back down but just for future reference). By the way my favorite level so far is level 7(the wide open arena) , I particularly love that leprechaun that steals your items and then hauls a*&. Happy Holidays! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 66 Thu Dec 24, 1987 P.DRABIK at 22:07 EST Anyone venture an opinion on whether the shortcut is worth it? Also, what is the best way to get rid of the mosquito on level 2/3 however you number it. Can the ghost be killed on that level? Anyone else get a SYSTEM ERROR 52 when trying to reload a saved game? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 67 Thu Dec 24, 1987 V.BUI at 22:50 PST OKay on level 3 ( the one where "choose your door, choose your fate?) I found all the gold keys except for one. I don't have the key to open the door just after the altar of rebirth and before the staircase the the 4th level. I can't seem to get past the chambers of the gaurdians. Please! someone help me. E-mail if you must! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 68 Fri Dec 25, 1987 STACE [RT SysOp] at 13:36 EST A friend at work has gotten the SYSTEM ERROR 52 on two different occassions. Really pi__ed him off as he had to start all over! Sounds like a bug that FTL might have to stamp out. I kind of envy everyone..everyone is farther along than I am and I was one of the first to get the game. Just been too darn busy with work..and *other* fun things! Mark ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 69 Fri Dec 25, 1987 J.CURTICE at 12:32 PST J.M., there are a few items of value behind that teleportation field, but nothing necessary to finish the game. I skipped it my first time past also, but went back and figured it out by chance (the same way I figured out most of the puzzles). You wouldn't happen to have an IR key, do you? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 70 Fri Dec 25, 1987 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 13:36 PST Don't worry Mark, I just got DM for Xmas (today, yeay!!), I can't get passed lvl 3 (counting the one where you get your champions)...this game is pretty cool, though...wish all D&D-type games were this good! Oh yea, anyone have any tips to give to someone who just started? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 71 Fri Dec 25, 1987 P.DRABIK at 17:12 EST A TIP FOR STARTERS, (I believe would be useful.) Use each chest to carry only one type of item. Food is a good choice. Also, save your torches as a last alternative for lighting. finally, save often! My question for anyone is how to open iron gate, not wooden door, after the mummy prisoner to get to following level? help! Also back up your save game disks by saving twice (in good positions). I believe the SYSTEM ERROR 52 meant a bad disk error of some sort, although I did have the message "disk unusable" when I place an unformatted disk as my save disk in drive a:. Why can't we put save disk in drive b:????? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 72 Fri Dec 25, 1987 CAPT.COOK at 17:14 EST Mark - Conserve food! In the beginning there is an overabundance, but very quickly you find that where you go is dictated by whether you have the eats to get there. V.BUI => That door is not crucial, if you must skip it. Henry => Thanks for the EMAIL, I should've figured that one out myself. -CC ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 73 Fri Dec 25, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 20:06 EST Aha, finally, I am on level 4. Let me share a STUPID experience I was doing to help you all avoid the same problem. I saved the game facing AWAY from a door I needed to go through. I didn't realize this for about 4 days after doing this. I would start up, and walk around in circles frustrated. Finally today I figured out that where I needed to go was behind me when I first booted up. I honestly wasted about 8-10 hours on this!! Be careful! Also! On your save game disk, there is a backup automatically made of the previous save file. Look at the save game disk from DeskTop and you'll see what I mean. An undocumented feature. I finally came up with a few things I think could be improved. I never feel comfortable until I find a flaw in something - no matter how small. First of all, this game COULD and maybe SHOULD sell for about $5 more. THEN they could provide us with some really neato packaging like Origin does with all its games. The Origin docs, and the little thingies in every package, are tops. Secondly, it's kind of strange how you can throw the glass flasks and they don't break! Thirdly, does anyone miss any weird, tinkling music? I kind of do. Maybe on a 1 meg machine? Finally, I wish that the picture of your character would reflect the clothes he or she was wearing. An automapping feature of some sort would be nice. Someone on Scorpia's SIG mentioned nailing tacks to the walls in games. ----not really needed in DungeonMaster since the mazes aren't that complex. All of these are really minor. They shouldn't be construed as me not liking the game. It's one of the mosst incredible gaming experiences I've ever had. No exaggeration. OH! I got an error 52 when I accidently stuck in a disk that wasn't my save game disk, AND wasn't the DungeonMaster disk. It wasn't a big deal - no crashes, no lost files - I just stuck in the save game disk and continued. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 74 Fri Dec 25, 1987 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 20:21 PST Henry: I think I know why the characters' clothes aren't switched, what would happen if you took each character's clothes off and left them on the ground? hahaha Thanks for the tips, now I need help with spells/potions. You guys have any tips for GOOD ones? Also, what are the best 4 characters to start with? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 75 Fri Dec 25, 1987 P.DRABIK at 23:25 EST KNOW ANY USE FOR MAGIC BOXES? ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 76 Fri Dec 25, 1987 J.CURTICE at 21:46 PST While we're on the subject of improvements, the one I would like the most is the ability to restore a game while playing. I often lose a character and find myself jumping down the nearest pit in order to get the restart option. It's either that or reboot... ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 77 Sat Dec 26, 1987 HTCOLONNA at 09:40 EST That's fun! A good excuse to commit suicide and hear the scream! Especially if you do it with the pit - you hear the scream twice in rapid succession. Quite satisfying (although a restore game option would certainly save alot of time). The healing potions are of course probably the most important, and so is the cure poison potion. I assume everyone can make those? If not, request EMAIL. I also have a SURE FIRE strategy against purple worms. Request EMAIL. ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 78 Sat Dec 26, 1987 CAPT.COOK at 12:15 EST Magic boxes => hold them in your ready hand to use them. Anyone besides me figure out the poison gas spell? It starts as a dart kind of thing, then when it hits a wall it explodes into a cloud of poison gas. Too bad I can't get one strong enough to do any serious harm. Also, here is something that I just figured out, maybe it'll help someone else. Too cast a spell that requires more mana then you have, select the first parts, but don't cast it, these parts will be held at the ready, then, when your mana regenerates, you can add the rest, then cast away. Also, you can use the same principle to go into battle with spells "at the ready". Henry =>As to worms, here's my EMAIL request! Does anyone have a trick to killing those rock piles? They take so much damage, it becomes a bore. (Unless there is a doorway nearby <grin>) -Capt. Cook ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 79 Sat Dec 26, 1987 CAPT.COOK at 12:32 EST OK, here are my suggestions. I don't like the way the quiver thing works. If I'm firing a bow, I can pull arrows out. This is how it should be, of course. But I can also set it up so I can fire one arrow, then pull a sword out of the quiver (because the upper left-hand spot will accept a sword, and it is the first to be pulled from.) Now, why can't I shoot all my arrows first, then pull the sword? But no, I gotta pull up the character, grab the sword, and replace it -- in the meanwhile being bashed by critters. Henry => That was I who mentioned the spikes in the wall. It seems a realistic solution to the mapping problem to me, as I am one of those who detests mapping. Anyone figured out the spell of magical protection? It's like the potion you find in the chest behind the force field, but it covers the whole party. -Capt. Cook PS: Like Henry, I mean that suggestion in no way as a real deterent to the game. This is a must have piece of software. _Please_ don't steal it! ---------- Category 9, Topic 74 Message 80 Sat Dec 26, 1987 M.DEVLIN [Mark] at 10:11 PST I've figured out a bunch of weird spells, and C.C.: I've made that green ball one...(thanks for the tip on Mana)...I' ve also made a spell that makes a green 'barrier' (it doesn't move) that justs explodes from where it was cast, and does MUCHO damage! If I rememer , I'll let ya know! Ok, SOMEONE answer me this time: What are the four best champs to start with? And how do you use Alex's lock picks?